Hands on people who become managers.
This a fab discussion by Jeffery Veen and Khoi Vinh both of whom are recognised as fantastic designers. Both now have killer leadership roles at Google (Jeff) and the New York Times (Khoi), what's recorded here is a great discussion about the difficulties faced by people who are typically very hands on as they move towards roles which require a greater degree of leadership.
I'm hearing very similar things from developers who have been required to make similar transistions. Especially those comments that relate to influencing organisational change and hearing Jeff talk about giving design a voice in (what I think sounds like) an agile environment.